The Revision · 2025 week 8

Anybody can show you what they said in week 8.

This shows you what week 8 should have said. On the left is the ranking that got published that Sunday. On the right is the same week, rebuilt once the season had finished and every opponent had shown what they were actually worth.

Nothing about a team’s own results changes between the two columns. Only what its opponents turned out to be worth.

2025 week 8 · the same 25 teams, ranked twice

as published in week 8

once the season finished

  1. 1Indiana
  2. 2Texas A&M
  3. 3Ohio State
  4. 4BYU
  5. 5Georgia Tech
  6. 6Alabama
  7. 7Georgia
  8. 8South Florida
  9. 9Texas Tech
  10. 10Oregon
  11. 11Oklahoma
  12. 12Navy
  13. 13Louisville
  14. 14Miami
  15. 15Virginia
  16. 16Vanderbilt
  17. 17Ole Miss
  18. 18Illinois
  19. 19Houston
  20. 20Tulane
  21. 21Arizona State
  22. 22James Madison
  23. 23North Texas
  24. 24Notre Dame
  25. 25UNLV
  1. Indiana1
  2. Texas A&M2
  3. Ohio State3
  4. BYU4
  5. Alabama5
  6. Georgia Tech6
  7. Oregon7
  8. Georgia8
  9. South Florida9
  10. Miami10
  11. Louisville11
  12. Oklahoma12
  13. Ole Miss13
  14. Texas Tech14
  15. Illinois15
  16. Notre Dame16
  17. North Texas17
  18. Tulane18
  19. Virginia19
  20. Houston20
  21. Vanderbilt21
  22. Arizona State22
  23. Navy26
  24. James Madison28
  25. UNLV33

Read a line’s angle as the size of the mistake. Flat means the week held up. The right-hand column is each team’s place among all 136 teams once the season was over, so a jump in those numbers is a team from outside this 25 moving in ahead of them. Of the 25 teams published that week, 21 ended up somewhere else and 4 stayed exactly where they were.

counts and the mean below are a tally of the published rank_delta field over the rows shown · 2025 week 8 · 7a38e08e

21 of 25teams in the published top 25 were in the wrong spot, measured against the finished season
3.24places the average top-25 team moved. Across all 136 ranked teams the pipeline publishes 5.40

Both figures are about the same week. The top 25 is the part people argue about. The whole field is the part that would catch this model out, and it goes up every week whether it flatters anybody or not.

The receipts, team by team

These are the six teams the finished season moved furthest in week 8, and most of them are outside the published top 25. A poll that only ever showed you its own top 25 would never have to show you that.

  1. Kentucky106 to 82

    Nothing about Kentucky’s 2-4 changed. The schedule turned out to be harder than it looked at the time, so the same results are worth a different amount.

    record
    2-4
    schedule odds
    1 in 1
    rank key
    0.01
    power
    0.491
    résumé
    -3.0
    gap
    -3.3
    90% rank range
    27 to 127
  2. Central Michigan63 to 83

    Nothing about Central Michigan’s 4-3 changed. The schedule turned out to be easier than it looked at the time, so the same results are worth a different amount.

    record
    4-3
    schedule odds
    1 in 1
    rank key
    0.06
    power
    2.772
    résumé
    5.9
    gap
    +3.2
    90% rank range
    12 to 120
  3. UConn58 to 76

    Nothing about UConn’s 5-2 changed. The schedule turned out to be easier than it looked at the time, so the same results are worth a different amount.

    record
    5-2
    schedule odds
    1 in 1
    rank key
    0.09
    power
    8.246
    résumé
    7.6
    gap
    -0.6
    90% rank range
    7 to 111
  4. App State84 to 101

    Nothing about App State’s 4-3 changed. The schedule turned out to be easier than it looked at the time, so the same results are worth a different amount.

    record
    4-3
    schedule odds
    1 in 1
    rank key
    0.02
    power
    -1.4105
    résumé
    1.8
    gap
    +3.2
    90% rank range
    43 to 129
  5. Arkansas110 to 94

    Nothing about Arkansas’s 2-5 changed. The schedule turned out to be harder than it looked at the time, so the same results are worth a different amount.

    record
    2-5
    schedule odds
    1 in 1
    rank key
    0.01
    power
    8.343
    résumé
    -3.3
    gap
    -11.7
    90% rank range
    6 to 101
  6. Florida64 to 49

    Nothing about Florida’s 3-4 changed. The schedule turned out to be harder than it looked at the time, so the same results are worth a different amount.

    record
    3-4
    schedule odds
    1 in 1
    rank key
    0.06
    power
    6.552
    résumé
    5.6
    gap
    -0.9
    90% rank range
    10 to 117

And inside the published top 25

  1. Navy12 to 26

    Nothing about Navy’s 6-0 changed. The schedule turned out to be easier than it looked at the time, so the same results are worth a different amount.

    record
    6-0
    schedule odds
    1 in 4
    rank key
    0.64
    power
    8.147
    résumé
    60.0
    gap
    +51.9
    90% rank range
    8 to 107
  2. Notre Dame24 to 16

    Nothing about Notre Dame’s 5-2 changed. The schedule turned out to be harder than it looked at the time, so the same results are worth a different amount.

    record
    5-2
    schedule odds
    1 in 3
    rank key
    0.44
    power
    13.215
    résumé
    17.9
    gap
    +4.7
    90% rank range
    2 to 91
  3. UNLV25 to 33

    Nothing about UNLV’s 6-1 changed. The schedule turned out to be easier than it looked at the time, so the same results are worth a different amount.

    record
    6-1
    schedule odds
    1 in 3
    rank key
    0.44
    power
    -0.395
    résumé
    20.0
    gap
    +20.3
    90% rank range
    36 to 129
  4. James Madison22 to 28

    Nothing about James Madison’s 6-1 changed. The schedule turned out to be easier than it looked at the time, so the same results are worth a different amount.

    record
    6-1
    schedule odds
    1 in 3
    rank key
    0.49
    power
    11.521
    résumé
    21.5
    gap
    +10.0
    90% rank range
    4 to 102

It is supposed to shrink, and here is whether it did

September should move a long way when January grades it, and less every week after that. If it ever stopped falling, the weekly poll was never worth reading, and this is the table that would show it.

In week 5 the average top-25 team was 5.24 places out of position. By week 15 it was 0.44. A near-flat figure late in the season is not a boring page. It is the divergence curve doing its job.

weektop 25 movedmean |Δ| top 25mean |Δ| all 136max |Δ| all 136
525 of 255.247.1828
625 of 254.005.7925
723 of 253.885.9623
821 of 253.245.4024
919 of 252.284.0318
1017 of 252.403.7817
1117 of 251.643.1513
1219 of 251.602.3413
1316 of 250.801.728
1410 of 250.560.975
158 of 250.440.915
1610 of 250.480.915

columns 2 and 3 are a tally over the 25 rows each week published · columns 4 and 5 are printed from 2025/divergence.json

What the two columns measure

Nearly every rankings page carries a plus-minus column, and on screen it looks exactly like this one. That column is the distance between this week’s list and last week’s. This is the distance between what week 8 said and what week 8 should have said, and the two are different measurements that happen to render as the same arrow.

Any ranking that rebuilds the whole season each week is already re-ranking its own past. That is how it works rather than a scandal. Keeping the old answer around is cheap. Publishing the gap is not, and this is the page that does it.

Move one of the settings behind this and watch the board answer →

run 7a38e08e · published 2026-08-19 23:13:04 UTC · code e215160 · config 1ef7cf23…
q_ref 11.26 (Michigan) · β_w 7 · C 32 · h 5.132 · σ 16.473 · λ₁ 150 · λ₂ 0.5 · k 76.66 · w₁ 0.6243 · w₂ 0.0025